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Zurak
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cs2d seems to be dieing, and imo this is the only game that dc made that actually has potential if only he decides to put a little more effort into it. i don't really know anything about making success out of games because i never have before but here are just some ideas:

1.) How about integrating the game as freeware into the steam network via http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/?

2.) Adding a donations option and using that to advertise the game via banners that could be made by the community via some sort of contest or something?

3.) Updating cs2d.com to look a little nicer and more attractive. maybe with a game-play background and some transparency in the windows and a nicer bigger logo, maybe add some youtube trailers or gameplay videos too?

5.) making it open source instead of modable? Idk if that would work out with hacks/being integrated into steam. then you could make a forum dedicated to the open source and attracting devs who would want to help out considering the fact that its completely free and open source?

6.) Updating the game with better updates like increased resolution and more construction options/choices. and just simply putting more effort into the game, and if money is the only way to promote dedication then that should be the way to go, otherwise you would have to rely on the community. and the community is mostly made up of kids here anyway so idk?

7.) And also to make people stay you could implement clans into the cs2d website to make the game even more competitive and addictive, besides all the deathruns and prison servers. and by implementing i mean like designing a fairly complex gui for clanrankings / leaderboards / matches that could be arranged via the website and tournaments that could be run by the community and dedicated mods?

     these are just some from the top of my head, i think there is so much opportunity but the only way to seek it is through dedication which, like i said earlier, can come either through the community or through the dev/dev's.

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increased resolution
I agrre with this, the minimum resolution should b 800 x 600, I doubt that someone owns a pc that can't run that resolution.

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making it open source instead of modable?

No, its easier to use lua. Hacking would increase...

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No, its easier to use lua. Hacking would increase...

No way. How come it would increase? Anyone who wants to download hacks can do it now. Even when CS2D goes open-source... Oh wait, still the same. If you want, you just download hacks.

Ideas are pretty good, by the way, but none of them will be implemented.

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Actually scratch the open source unless it can be used to help create this:

1.) i think that the most attractive aspects come from the map designers. Integrating a map rating system into the game could really separate the shitty maps from the exceptional ones.

2.) focusing more on opportunities with the game map editor could really promote new players to create more maps and spend more time making better maps eventually leading to players inventing new types of maps with unique qualities.

3.) Integrating the freedoms of scripting and modding into the map editor itself via something that is visual and easy to learn could promote creativity and therefore update the game in itself through its community.

so essentially, what you want to do is be able to make the game update on its own through the people playing it through a system that runs on never-stopping popular vote.

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Integrating the freedoms of scripting and modding into the map editor itself via something that is visual and easy to learn could promote creativity and therefore update the game in itself through its community.

One of the best ideas ever.

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I really hope DC can continue to actively develop CS2D again and advertise it a lot more.

The good old' days were one of the best times ever.

If it means that us as the community must contribute to help cs2d grow larger, then I honestly have nothing against it.

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2.) Adding a donations option and using that to advertise the game via banners that could be made by the community via some sort of contest or something?
Nobody stops you from promoting cs2d with banners.

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5.) making it open source instead of modable? Idk if that would work out with hacks/being integrated into steam. then you could make a forum dedicated to the open source and attracting devs who would want to help out considering the fact that its completely free and open source?
CS2D was open source before DC completely rewrote it in blitzMax. He doesn't want to make it open source and I can understand it. Bigger games only give you the ability to script too, and you don't want to have the sourcecode there.

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6.) Updating the game with better updates like increased resolution and more construction options/choices. and just simply putting more effort into the game, and if money is the only way to promote dedication then that should be the way to go, otherwise you would have to rely on the community. and the community is mostly made up of kids here anyway so idk?
The thing with the resolution is a problem. People with bigger screens could see more. That's really unfair!

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7.) And also to make people stay you could implement clans into the cs2d website to make the game even more competitive and addictive, besides all the deathruns and prison servers. and by implementing i mean like designing a fairly complex gui for clanrankings / leaderboards / matches that could be arranged via the website and tournaments that could be run by the community and dedicated mods?
I had already started something like this, and user oxytamine messaged me about working on it again. I'm still waiting for his next message

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1. Could spread the popularity a bit

2. Well there is this, but:
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They are not crucial for running Unreal Software.


3. It doesn't really need to be that fancy, the faq and the reference manual are really what that site is used for anyway.

4. You missed four

5. It's a good idea, but the cons out weigh the pros.

6. I don't think anyone here plays cs2d for the realism, increased resolution would be nice, but I don't think it's one of the top things people are really asking for.

7. Prison and deathruns as well as construction are the most popular servers because there aren't a lot of people who play competitively anymore. I think it would be best for clan sites to remain detached from unreal, less managements, since DC rarely plays anyways.

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Dc should let some comunity members help him with cs2d, a lot of people in us would do a great work.

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cs2d seems to be dieing

It might seem like that but do you have any proof on this? Do you have the stats? I have and I can tell you: CS2D is definitely NOT dieing. Don't worry.

I'll comment your ideas anyway:

1. Might be an idea. I didn't try that but it would also mean additional work for me with each update.

2. Money is not the problem. Even though it would be a motivation to get more of it...

3. I'm planning to do that but I didn't find the time yet. Everyone can help in this case: Make nice screenshots or create cool videos and send them to me so I can put them on CS2D.com

4. You have no point 4?!

5. Making it open source is absolutely no option. This has many reasons like cheat/hack development for instance. I assume that this would result in total chaos and destruction.

6. Already doing that. I can't invest more time than I have though.

7. No way. I sense huge trouble here and a super huge amount of time required to manage that because all those stupid clan kids will say stuff like "hey they stole my clan name" "they kicked me out of the clan" "we used that name for our clan 10 years ago already" "bla bla bla bla". Nobody want's to deal with this crap. Especially not me.


And for everyone who thinks that development will be faster if more people help: It's really not that easy. Working in a team means that you have to manage the team, the code versions etc. It's a completely different thing and I'm not ready for this.

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6. Already doing that. I can't invest more time than I have though.


YAY I waited for bigger resolution for a long time.

BTW who needs 4th point ^.^

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I was not talking about making the resolution bigger (I don't plan to do that). But about making updates in general

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I think it would be nice if it takes a little bit longer
before the next update is released. But than that it has more to offer like more changes and more new things.

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cs2d seems to be dieing

It might seem like that but do you have any proof on this? Do you have the stats? I have and I can tell you: CS2D is definitely NOT dieing. Don't worry.


No, it's not, but the popularity of this game decreased from version to version. For example, when version 0.1.1.8 got released, there were 1000 players/hour sometimes, now, even if v0.1.2.0 bring a lot more stuff, you can barely see 900 players/hour. All those are not stats, but what I observed during some gameplays.

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And for everyone who thinks that development will be faster if more people help: It's really not that easy. Working in a team means that you have to manage the team, the code versions etc. It's a completely different thing and I'm not ready for this.
Then what about a community developing team? They will help update the game, but they won't work with you.

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@user J4x: They update my closed source game without working together with me? Concepts like a "community developing team" are quite impossible because CS2D will stay closed source (too risky that someone releases the source). Also I don't want to give the control over the development of this game out of my hand. I don't want others to change the game I worked on for years in a way that I dislike.

Teaming up won't happen for CS2D in close future.

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I think the only thing DC would ever do is make more things that are hardcoded load from a cfg, ex. text/gfx/sfx/etc.

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from reading ur responses i now understand that you are just simply not ready for any serious dedication to the game. i just hope u realize someday that you can actually make a living off of game development.

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from reading ur responses i now understand that you are just simply not ready for any serious dedication to the game.

So you want him to give the source code to people that want stupid shit like a microphone chat which would ultimately ruin the game and therefore no one would play it? - That's some serious dedication there, bro.

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i just hope u realize someday that you can actually make a living off of game development.

You're the smartest guy here, really.

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@user Zurak: Saying this without knowing any background information is actually pretty bold and inappropriate. I'm also quite offended by the sentence
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you are just simply not ready for any serious dedication to the game

Do you seriously think that it is possible to create such a game (alone!) without serious dedication? In that case you have absolutely no idea about game development.
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