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http://unrealsoftware.de/forum_posts.php?post=342199&start=40

The continuation of this thread because that got closed.

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It's funny to see how both sides blame each other. I especially liked the "Just get the fuck out of Palestine and no one will kill you" comment. Seriously? First you say the Israelis kill people and you say that you're gonna kill Israelis if they don't leave?
Why can't you live together in one country peacefully? Why are you so narrow-minded that your religions make you kill each other and stop you from living peacefully?

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Well in comment was written "Dumb muslim"... That's why it is racist. Anyway, let's stay on topic.

My friend live in Israel, and he seeing explosions in the sky a lot. Rockets were destroyed in the sky because of Israel's Iron Dome. So Israel is pretty well protected from rockets, as I heard, only 10% of Palestine's rockets touched the ground.

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We can't live with them peacefully because they stole it from us,eh? Also they took Alquds (Jerusalem) which has ِAl-Masjed Alaqsa (Masjed=mosque) which is a holy place for muslims.

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We can't live with them peacefully because they stole it from us,eh? Also they took Alquds (Jerusalem) which has ِAl-Masjed Alaqsa (Masjed=mosque) which is a holy place for muslims.

Al-Aqsa Mosque was established in 705. Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 325/326.
In 636 muslims stole Israel from Byzantine Empire. Why build mosques if there is christians? In next time don't build mosques and you will not have problems.

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@user useigor: and before the christians it was the jews that had their temple there. So actually, the jews were given back the land that had once been theirs.

I believe that no piece of land has ever been more fought over in the past than the holy land.
The holy land was one of the first ever settled regions in the eurasian area.
It was taken and lost again by Egypt some 1000 years BC.
Then the isrealites founded their first religion-based country there and built the temple of solomon in Jerusalem. This proves the jews to have been the first ever to build their temples in that area, which are effectively also christian holy places in some way.
Then the area was taken again by a bunch of folks, some religious, some not (Assyrians, Babylon, Persians, Romans, Byzantians). Well, and then mohammed (or however you want to write him) came along with his islam revolution and built his temples where the israelites had built theirs long ago (according to the tale, mohammed was not a very religion-tolerate person) and apart from the crusades, in which the christians took over the area, it stayed mostly moslem until the british came along and declared the territory british, until they gave it to the jews.

If you now want to know which religion has the right to own the holy land, I suggest you read the Ring Parable by Lessing. He found a plausible solution in 1779.

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We can't live with them peacefully because they stole it from us,eh? Also they took Alquds (Jerusalem) which has ِAl-Masjed Alaqsa (Masjed=mosque) which is a holy place for muslims.

What about other cities where mosques are built aka 95% of the cities in the world? Should they be given to muslims as well?
Israel belonged to the Jews long before Muslims and Christians.
Read what Hador said.

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Israel belonged to the Jews...

...and the world belongs to mankind. None of these people(s) who fight for that holy land deserve to get it for their own only. A real holy land should not be covered by blood, pain, war and destruction but by something which makes people (which contains both jews and muslims (and everybody else)) happy.

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It's simple story but u guys Can't see the truth cuz u have been learning a lies over and over those years .
When some one steal ur County with any reason (even with reason ,WTF ?!) u will defend it until the last blood , Isra'el didn't get attacked by 4 sides and won , they pay for Arabs Leaders (Cheater ) and arabs stopped fighting for 14 days .. those days was enough to make Isra'el a Realty but Isra'el will never Feel safe to there fake country that they created .
the baggiest reason why Palestinian in Gaza don't hide and fight Cuz it's there country they will sacrifice everything that they own to save it , Palestine is an Arabic country ( were living in Peace Christian and Muslims ) and they live in Peace together now to save our country Back .
Free Palestine ..
When some one Steal ur land , u don't go to Peace cuz Nothing of peace pullshit even worked since All the Worlds Leader are with Isreal in some how even Arabs leaders ..the truth will show soon.

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@user Infinite Rain: Because USA and UK helped it.

@user Hador: Before the Egyptians there were the original people who are arabs.
Also Jews lived there for 73 years only while muslims lived for over 500 years.
We believe that Sulaiman_may peace be upon him_ did built the temple but it was destroyed after that and then it was rebuilt and destroyed again.So now it doesn't exist.

Also Mohammad _may peace be upon him_ wasn't like what you said,he lived with Jews in Al-madina and he tried to make peace with them but ended up by them trying to murder him.

@user palomino: Masjed Al-aqsa is one of the three holy mosques of Islam,it's not like we build a mosque then decide that it's a holy place,it is written in the Quran.

Israel will never stop the expansion,they will expand even more if Hamas wasn't there.
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